Respectfully, the places you namedropped are somewhat out of date. Would suggest places like Gospel, Paul's Casablanca, Zero Bond, etc. as the current popular "trendy" spots.
As someone who’s just started a family, where are the best places to raise a kid outside the city? Not from NY so totally unfamiliar with Long Island, jersey, Brooklyn, etc. starting to look but overwhelmed by all the towns. Not financially set, still in the 2-300 range
Grew up there. Most families go Staten Island --> Jersey. For Jersey, think Colts neck, Short Hills Mall, etc. Staten Island, Todt Hill. Obviously, if financially set, you go to Greenwich.
Always depends on other options. If late 20s and have a top tier MBA you may be better off getting the same thing but going to a lower COL area like Texas for a similar paygrade.
Especially if goal is to spin up your own biz. That one is a tough call come back when you have offers and can help provide an opinion
Brooklyn (Bushwick, Greenpoint, and mayyyyybe Williamsburg tho that's basically "Manhattan-in-Brooklyn" culturewise) is pretty strongly preferable for anybody remotely alternative/hipster/artsy/farm-to-table yadda yadda
if you're into Proper Cosmopolitan, Manhattan all day.
if you're into What The Cool Kids Are Up To These Days, Brooklyn.
Hoboken/JC is perfectly fine but basically just a poor impression of Manhattan also it's all Typical Corporate Bros.
was in NYC from 1997-2009 - none of the hot spots then are even on the map now. City has changed a ton and it always seems to be reinventing itself. Too expensive for me now as I'm living off RE income and living cheaper in a more tax-friendly domicile but was back in November of last year and seemed like the energy/vibe was slowly coming back after Covid.
Here to mention some of the best ppl I met were at the boxing and jiu jitsu gyms out there, which were kind of gutted after lockdowns. Special breed if ppl.
NoHo is also underrated, especially those wide cobblestone streets like SoHo. Neighborhood is close to the action, has some prime spots (Zero Bond, Bond St.), nearby Washington Sq. Park. Main thing lacking is low apartment inventory.
Left side of the red square should be a bit extended imho, the bottom left corner fails to capture Battery Park City, which is a great area to live. (plus you have ferry to Paulus Hook + uber to EWR, for a ~30 min airport commute at all hours of the day).
Don't sleep on the Murray hill flex apartments for the new grads to get some "cheap" rent and be walking distance to the office. Not ideal for weekend nightlife, but good some good post work drink spots in Midtown.
Always found that a well-balanced spot. Ease of jumping off to various areas and see what you like. Good access up and down, then decent access to Brooklyn, and queens too.
And +1 to the fast track career progression point. I was able to 3x my income when I was in NYC in 4 years. Don't think that's possible anywhere else. (Specifically primary income)
Yeah if you catch the right wave it is foolish to leave. Once it turns on you (politics, guy leaves, company does poorly whatever) its usually time to hang em up and start building out your own equity and finding a lower COL spot
Respectfully, the places you namedropped are somewhat out of date. Would suggest places like Gospel, Paul's Casablanca, Zero Bond, etc. as the current popular "trendy" spots.
Oh yeah forgot about Gospel. Will take your word for it, always a couple new ones popping up thanks for the info!
Great spots, Ridiculous doors
That is always a good sign
As someone who’s just started a family, where are the best places to raise a kid outside the city? Not from NY so totally unfamiliar with Long Island, jersey, Brooklyn, etc. starting to look but overwhelmed by all the towns. Not financially set, still in the 2-300 range
Grew up there. Most families go Staten Island --> Jersey. For Jersey, think Colts neck, Short Hills Mall, etc. Staten Island, Todt Hill. Obviously, if financially set, you go to Greenwich.
Yeah Greenwich is where all the set people seem to go
Just look up Whole Foods locations. (Does not mean you have to shop there). Anything within 10 min from one should be optimal for family life.
In NJ - Rumson/Fair Haven for a shore vibe. Chatham in North Jersey
growing up in Rumson was a fantasy world. But everyone’s kids are snobby and spoiled and liable to get addicted to hard drugs
Seems like a lot of upper middle class suburbs in nyc are like that tbh
Curious about which parts of Long Island.
Moving to BK in June. TY for the guide!
You can tell BTB were annoyed they had to do Miami before nyc since the once every 2 weeks suddenly became twice a week.
Hahaha! yeah it was already written next one will be in June no worries
if gunning for post MBA Associate role in banking/consulting, (so 180k min but late 20s), worth it to move to NYC? For 2-4 yrs
Always depends on other options. If late 20s and have a top tier MBA you may be better off getting the same thing but going to a lower COL area like Texas for a similar paygrade.
Especially if goal is to spin up your own biz. That one is a tough call come back when you have offers and can help provide an opinion
solid.
Brooklyn (Bushwick, Greenpoint, and mayyyyybe Williamsburg tho that's basically "Manhattan-in-Brooklyn" culturewise) is pretty strongly preferable for anybody remotely alternative/hipster/artsy/farm-to-table yadda yadda
if you're into Proper Cosmopolitan, Manhattan all day.
if you're into What The Cool Kids Are Up To These Days, Brooklyn.
Hoboken/JC is perfectly fine but basically just a poor impression of Manhattan also it's all Typical Corporate Bros.
Bushwick is a strange place
Worst part is the lack of parks. Couldn’t imagine running those streets constantly.
Get the 6/L combo and that gets you access to good chunks. Maybe somewhere roughly around Madison Square Park up to 36th.
6 to L is the nuts.
Brooklyn is too far away from anything important.
was in NYC from 1997-2009 - none of the hot spots then are even on the map now. City has changed a ton and it always seems to be reinventing itself. Too expensive for me now as I'm living off RE income and living cheaper in a more tax-friendly domicile but was back in November of last year and seemed like the energy/vibe was slowly coming back after Covid.
Late 20s Contemplating moving to NYC but salary would go from 120k --> 140kish (30% bonus potential).
Living with no rent/little living expenses at moment. Can Airbnb all over Latin America and US for same cost of NYC rent.
Here to mention some of the best ppl I met were at the boxing and jiu jitsu gyms out there, which were kind of gutted after lockdowns. Special breed if ppl.
NoHo is also underrated, especially those wide cobblestone streets like SoHo. Neighborhood is close to the action, has some prime spots (Zero Bond, Bond St.), nearby Washington Sq. Park. Main thing lacking is low apartment inventory.
Left side of the red square should be a bit extended imho, the bottom left corner fails to capture Battery Park City, which is a great area to live. (plus you have ferry to Paulus Hook + uber to EWR, for a ~30 min airport commute at all hours of the day).
Don't sleep on the Murray hill flex apartments for the new grads to get some "cheap" rent and be walking distance to the office. Not ideal for weekend nightlife, but good some good post work drink spots in Midtown.
Yeah thats a common place for people who make it past year 2
Always found that a well-balanced spot. Ease of jumping off to various areas and see what you like. Good access up and down, then decent access to Brooklyn, and queens too.
Chelsea for best neighborhood for sure (personal opinion).
Also if you just moved to NYC save yourself the trouble and don't go to 230 Fifth/Mr.Purple/Marquee (unless there is a show), just not worth it.
Yeah Marquee was good a long time ago, it is still alive but not really the "it spot"
And +1 to the fast track career progression point. I was able to 3x my income when I was in NYC in 4 years. Don't think that's possible anywhere else. (Specifically primary income)
Yeah if you catch the right wave it is foolish to leave. Once it turns on you (politics, guy leaves, company does poorly whatever) its usually time to hang em up and start building out your own equity and finding a lower COL spot
What are the reasons for preferring Chelsea over e.g. SoHo/NoLita/NoHo/WV?
I can think of Marquee/High Line/High end art galleries, but don't think that puts it at above the aforementioned.
Agree on Chelsea. been there for 3 years. West Village vibe with a step down in rent prices.
Okay I endorse this with the late mention of Catch IYKYK!