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BowTiedShrike was a big covid vax shill in 2021, even after many other Jungle members in the Discord pointed out patterns and evidence that indicated it’s likely harmful to human health (well proven now by statistical data from Edward Dowd and others) - I can’t take anything he writes seriously. Not trying to derail topic of post but some of us haven’t forgotten that.

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Interesting we've avoided all COVID Vax comments on here for a reason, not experts in anything related to medicine (tech, Ecom, RE and finance is what we stick to)

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lmao 'vax shill'. I was and am against those terrible mandates, and against discounting natural immunity.

My position in 2021 was the vaccine worked on the first variant as advertised, had a good safety profile, and helped at population level. Individual level benefit depended on your situation. Was not a fan of boosters unless vulnerable. I still stand by all of that for the initial variant and vaccine.

New versions of the vaccine lag the latest strain, and reduced lethality of the new variants changes the risk analysis now. For more detail, my early 2023 update still good (skip down to 'bivalent vaccines': https://bowtiedshrike.substack.com/p/covid-updates-ii

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Honestly have no idea whats happening so will just leave all these comments. We've never said to take or not take the vax made no comments during the whole thing for this exact reason.

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Amazing right, this article has nothing to do with vax. Like not even close to that topic...Smh. A tale of the times.

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Yes you’re better off avoiding it, topic is a minefield as you know - and anyways there are others with legit medical and scientific credentials that are better equipped to address it. (Ed Dowd, Steve Kirsch, Robert Malone, McCullough etc). Many of these guys have only 1-2 degrees of separation from the BowTied community anyways, similar Twitter circles, plus most of the Jungle is already in the know about this issue by now.

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Send some links - would be interested to read up.

We will find common ground on mandates and silencing of scientific debate are unacceptable.

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